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Roman
07-06-2005, 09:52 PM
Okay, I must be missing something.

Re: the power Super Attribute

The cost of Super Attribute reads:

"Super attributes cost the same as normal attributes, but once they exceed the racial norm for that attribute they are classified as Super." (p. 40)

According to the book, the cost to raise an attribute is:
"to boost an attribute by one pip costs 10 times the number before the attribute's 'D' in Character Points." (p. 26)

This is said to be the "first way" characters can improve their attributes. There is a "second way" mentioned as well:

"the gamemaster requires all adult characters to take the Super Attribute Super Power (discussed in the "Super Powers" chapter) in order to improve their physical and mental attributes. There is no maximum with this method." (p. 26)

Thus, we seem to have a loop where the first reference leads to a second reference which reflexively leads to the first reference.

Yet, still, this situation wouldn't be so confusing if not for the fact that, upon looking at the NPCs (Patriot and Aryan Superior come to mind) where the power point totals seem far too low compared to the amount of points it would cost for these NPCs to have their Super Attributes at those levels.

For example, Super Aryan has a Physique at 12D. Assuming he began with the human maximum of 5D, it would seem that his cost of raising to 6D would be [(5x10)+(5x10)]=100 points. How, then, did he get a 12D Physique with 198 points to build his powers?!

I might have been able to work backward from point totals effectively and discover my errors, but we aren't ever told how many levels of Super Attribute any of the characters have.

All in all, I feel very confused, and would greatly appreciate SOMEBODY helping me out and pointing me to the rule or passage I must be missing.

Thanks!

~Roman

Jerry D. Grayson
07-06-2005, 09:58 PM
Roman welcome to the boards!

When building a character from the ground up you don’t have to worry about the character advancement method of raising an attribute. At character creation if you want a character to have an attribute of 7D it would cost 28 points (4 points per die).

After character creation super attribute cost quite a bit more.

Roman
07-06-2005, 10:06 PM
Oh thank heaven. Thank you thank you thank you.

That makes everything *SO* much better.

(Though, for future reference in Godsend Mythos, which I will buy, please in the future list how many ranks characters have in Super Attribute where applicable.)

A thousand times I thank you.

~Roman
Long time D6 fan, and new to Godsend: Agenda.

Jerry D. Grayson
07-06-2005, 10:15 PM
Hehe, no problem. I can understand where it can be confusing.

Anything over 5D in an attribute is considered “Super”. So if a person has a Presence 7D he has two ranks of super attribute (which counts toward his maximum ranks in powers). Aryan Superior would have 6 ranks of super Physique

prophet118
07-08-2005, 04:27 AM
its been a minor problem with me as well..since im so used to other specific games listnig precisely what they have

no biggie though, when you realize that since other powers arent really based on ranks against ranks, you should be fine

in mutants and mastermind, this would be a huge deal though